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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:59 am    Post subject: gjermy Reply with quote

Hi,

I have a TurboSIM (many thanks) and am trying to write a SIM app to intercept non-TurboSMS SMSes.

When I use reg_action (ACTION_SMS); in ACTION_APP_REGISTER, I never get called with case ACTION_SMS in turbo_handler.

I think maybe TurboSIM is intercepting the SMS before my SIM App gets to it?

Using reg_sms_tag and ACTION_SMS_MSG works ok. However, the server side app is out of my control, and can not deliver TurboSMS formatted SMSes. So this wont work for the application I'm trying to write.

Should ACTION_SMS be working for me?

Is there a way I can make it work?

Many thanks,

gjermy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There can be issue with phones storing incoming SMS to internal memory first, then to SIM. This is nothing we can do about - only to have full ME memory. What phone do you use?

Please also check there is room for SMS on the SIM.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks for speedy reply.

I have been using Nokia 6600 and Siemens SL45.

I have cleared message stores so dont think this is the problem.

> There can be issue with phones storing incoming SMS to internal memory first, then to SIM.

If this is the case then I'm not sure why TurboSMS works but normal SMS dont.

Do you mean some phones do this differently for PID 0x7f and 0x00?
This is only reason I can think for the difference between TurboSMS and 'normal' SMS.

I will...

1) construct some non-TuboSMS with PID 0x7f to see if that works,

2) configure TurboSMS to use PID 0x00, to see if TurboSMS stop working

3) try another phone

I was worried by the "SMS processing flow" diagram on /devel-docs/group__api__tsms.html. This makes it look like Turbo will re-route any non-TurboSMS away from whatever SIM app I write.

Can you confirm that Turbo will still (try) to give my app ACTION_SMS for normal SMS if it can ?

Thanks again,

gjermy
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gjermy wrote:
Many thanks for speedy reply.

I have been using Nokia 6600 and Siemens SL45.

I have cleared message stores so dont think this is the problem.

> There can be issue with phones storing incoming SMS to internal memory first, then to SIM.

If this is the case then I'm not sure why TurboSMS works but normal SMS dont.


PID 0x7F says that message is sim data download and goes always to sim with envelope mechanism, i.e. not to file (memory).

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Do you mean some phones do this differently for PID 0x7f and 0x00?


Sure. It is also related to DCS, where class of message is coded, it says if the message goes to ME (flash messages), always to SIM or it's left upon ME to handle (this is the default) - then it goes either to ME memory or SIM first (each vendor behaves differently).

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This is only reason I can think for the difference between TurboSMS and 'normal' SMS.

I will...

1) construct some non-TuboSMS with PID 0x7f to see if that works,


Look at 03.48 on SMS and 03.38 on coding (DCS).

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2) configure TurboSMS to use PID 0x00, to see if TurboSMS stop working

3) try another phone

I was worried by the "SMS processing flow" diagram on /devel-docs/group__api__tsms.html. This makes it look like Turbo will re-route any non-TurboSMS away from whatever SIM app I write.

Can you confirm that Turbo will still (try) to give my app ACTION_SMS for normal SMS if it can ?


Yes, this is how it works.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I read it again and I haven't seen that you do reg_action (ACTION_SMS) in ACTION_APP_REGISTER. Do it in ACTION_APP_INIT, see e.g. pager source.
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